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SCOTUS: Repeal the 2nd
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Baxter
2018-03-27 15:01:19 UTC
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Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment

Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens believes
the students and demonstrators who protested this past weekend for gun
control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.

"A concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the
security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment,"
Stevens wrote an op-ed published in The New York Times Tuesday, adding,
"today that concern is a relic of the 18th century."

A lifelong Republican but considered liberal in his judicial rulings,
Stevens pointed to his dissent in the 2008 landmark District of Columbia v.
Heller case that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to
possess a firearm for self-defense within his home.

"That decision — which I remain convinced was wrong and certainly was
debatable — has provided the (National Rifle Association) with a propaganda
weapon of immense power," wrote Stevens, who served from 1975 until he
retired in 2010.

He added, "Overturning that decision via a constitutional amendment to get
rid of the Second Amendment would be simple and would do more to weaken the
NRA's ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun
control legislation than any other available option."

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max headroom
2018-03-27 15:19:24 UTC
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Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment...
I like Klaus' version better.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-27 15:27:11 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
Baxter
2018-03-27 15:46:43 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3

"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-27 19:01:35 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger
BWAH ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ah a ha hah ah !

Warren Burger's TV Guide interview! A classic!
bigdog
2018-03-27 20:50:03 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Burger was a moron.
benj
2018-03-27 23:19:27 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Burger was a moron.
Libs keep harping on the idea that the second Amendment doesn't cover
all firearms. Their desperate hope is they can shave away at what is
permitted until nothing is. But it obviously IS true that not just any
gun is covered. In fact the wording says "arms" which covers a lot more
than just guns. And indeed not even every firearm is an "arm" in the 2nd
Amendment sense. Sure some firearms have multiple uses and can be
effective for either self-defense or other uses. But some sporting
"guns" are clearly not useful as arms. Such equipment obviously does not
fall under the protection of the Second amendment. It would therefore be
regulated the same as would any interstate commerce.

The thing about Libs is, that they as usual turn everything upside down
where they want to say that things that are "arms" and useful for
defense are NOT covered (semi-auto rifles) while while any sporting gear
which is ineffective (nerf gun) for defense is what is protected by the
Bill of Rights. The usual dishonest lib approach.
Scout
2018-03-30 02:43:02 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.

The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO

Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming 2nd
Amendment rights.

Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
bigdog
2018-03-30 03:38:12 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.
The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO
Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming 2nd
Amendment rights.
Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
Furthermore in the infamous Dred Scott ruling in which Dred Scott was denied
the rights of a citizen the court wrote:

“It would give to persons of the Negro race, ... the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, ... the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”
benj
2018-03-30 16:18:34 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.
The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO
Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming 2nd
Amendment rights.
Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
Furthermore in the infamous Dred Scott ruling in which Dred Scott was denied
“It would give to persons of the Negro race, ... the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, ... the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.”
Libs are obviously in full agreement with Dred Scott since they want to
see the negro race confined to ghettos in the city where they are
encouraged to have limited interactions with any whites who aren't
progressive since non-progressive whites are ALL said to be racis'.

And "free" speech is encouraged so long as it mimics Al Sharpton or
Jesse Jackson and toes the Liberal party line. Opposition to liberal
policies gets swift punishment as Cosby found out when questioning
liberal policies toward blacks. And of course EVERYONE (except the NRA
members and other Pro-gunners who regard law abiding blacks with guns as
heroes and spokesmen for the cause) fears a black man with a gun. Cops,
libs, politicians, you name it. Virtually ALL gun control laws were
implemented as RACE CONTROL. So naturally libs are all for them.
Baxter
2018-03-30 14:43:06 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice
Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an
unfettered individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to
PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon
was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across
the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.
The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO
Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming
2nd Amendment rights.
Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far more
standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
bigdog
2018-03-30 15:31:27 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice
Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an
unfettered individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to
PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon
was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across
the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.
The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO
Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming
2nd Amendment rights.
Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far more
standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
The Burger court never ruled on 2A. The court that did rule on 2A ruled that it
protected an individual's RKBA. That trumps any opinion offered by a former
justice who had no standing at the time he offered that opinion. IOW, Burger's
opinion was irrelevant.
no standing at the time he offe
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-31 13:54:37 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far more
standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
Baxter
2018-03-31 14:10:49 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far
more standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal
standing with any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
Oh, grow up!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-04-01 00:59:18 UTC
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:10:49 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far
more standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal
standing with any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
Oh, grow up!
That's the best you can do, now, LeRoy?

Take a hit off your oxygen and come back with another one of your goal
post moves.
Scout
2018-04-04 01:20:39 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far
more standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal
standing with any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
Oh, grow up!
Ok, DC vs Heller (2008) the Supreme Court of the United States declared that
Burger's claims were BULLSHIT.

Is that 'grown up' enough for you?

Bill Shatzer
2018-03-31 18:09:40 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far more
standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
I refer you to Article III,section 3 of the US Constitution for what is
and is not treason.

Nothing Burger ever did even approached that standard.

And that's a fact.

peace and justice,
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-04-01 00:59:56 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Fri, 30 Mar 2018 14:43:06 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases. He has far more
standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
Burger was a fraud and a traitor. That's a fact
I refer you to Article III,section 3 of the US Constitution for what is
and is not treason.
Nothing Burger ever did even approached that standard.
And that's a fact.
I'm sorry that you've gotten this far in life without knowing the
meaning of the word "traitor," Bill.
Scout
2018-04-04 01:19:26 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice
Warren Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an
unfettered individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to
PBS in 1990, the rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon
was expressing the longtime consensus of historians and judges across
the political spectrum.
Then he should have no issue producing a slew of cases in which SCOTUS
rejected such a defense by noting that the individual claiming the 2nd
Amendment as their defense had no standing to do so.
The number of such cases where standing was found not to exist = ZERO
Despite several cases heard by SCOTUS concerning a defendant claiming
2nd Amendment rights.
Now, WHO is trying to revise legal history here, and why?
You are. Burger was a SC Justice and sat on such cases.
Yep, and NOT ONCE was any individual EVER denied standing to claim the 2nd
Amendment in their own defense.

If what is claimed had any merit then a defendant who asserted 2nd Amendment
protections would have their defense rejected since they lack the standing
necessary, according to your bullshit, to claim the 2nd Amendment for their
personal defense.


He has far more
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standing on the issue than any of you gun nutz - and equal standing with
any other SC Justice.
Wile E. Coyote
2018-03-30 11:20:23 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political spectrum.
Molon labe, motherfucker.
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It's time for the students to step up their game and kill people like
Coulter.

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benj
2018-03-30 16:25:26 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That’s how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political
spectrum.
Molon labe, motherfucker.
Libs never do their own work, Coyote. They always talk someone dumber
than them into doing it for them. Anyway libs know that the right to
keep an bear arms does have limitations! For example they all agree
that blacks, Jews, Hispanics and some others should never have a right
to own and carry guns unless they have sworn allegiance to those in
power. It's what "gun control" is all about.
Scout
2018-04-04 01:17:20 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
https://wp.me/p2os5l-2M3
"A fraud on the American public." That's how former Chief Justice Warren
Burger described the idea that the Second Amendment gives an unfettered
individual right to a gun. When he spoke these words to PBS in 1990, the
rock-ribbed conservative appointed by Richard Nixon was expressing the
longtime consensus of historians and judges across the political
spectrum.
And the Supreme Court of the United States of America refuted his bullshit
claims in 2008
bigdog
2018-03-27 20:49:19 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
And his drool cup was overflowing.
benj
2018-03-27 23:20:31 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:01:19 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
I hear he made the comment as they were changing his Depends.
And his drool cup was overflowing.
Hey who needs the constitution when there is a perfectly good Communist
Manifesto that is just what is needed to make America "progressive" again?
Michael Ejercito
2018-03-27 19:02:06 UTC
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Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens believes
the students and demonstrators who protested this past weekend for gun
control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
"A concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the
security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment,"
Stevens wrote an op-ed published in The New York Times Tuesday, adding,
"today that concern is a relic of the 18th century."
Now there are new threats.


Michael

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Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-27 19:22:23 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens believes
the students and demonstrators who protested this past weekend for gun
control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
"A concern that a national standing army might pose a threat to the
security of the separate states led to the adoption of that amendment,"
Stevens wrote an op-ed published in The New York Times Tuesday, adding,
"today that concern is a relic of the 18th century."
Now there are new threats.
And plenty of the same old threats.

This guy is just another old oxygen-tank-dragging leftist fruitcake
that hates the Constitution. Like Baxter.



"Your 'individual liberty' is not worth anything, and if it is 'big
brotherism" to care about people, we need a lot more of it."
-Baxter
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Just Wondering
2018-03-27 23:44:03 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John
Paul Stevens believes the students and demonstrators
who protested this past weekend for gun control
should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Since the Second Amendment is not the source of the right
to keep and bear arms, the main effect of its repeal would
be to eliminate the confusion over the prefatory "militia"
clause. The individual right to keep and bear arms would
remain intact.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-27 23:46:22 UTC
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Post by Just Wondering
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John
Paul Stevens believes the students and demonstrators
who protested this past weekend for gun control
should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Since the Second Amendment is not the source of the right
to keep and bear arms, the main effect of its repeal would
be to eliminate the confusion over the prefatory "militia"
clause. The individual right to keep and bear arms would
remain intact.
If he would just increase the O2 flow a little bit, he'd know that.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-27 23:49:31 UTC
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Post by Just Wondering
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John
Paul Stevens believes the students and demonstrators
who protested this past weekend for gun control
should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Since the Second Amendment is not the source of the right
to keep and bear arms, the main effect of its repeal would
be to eliminate the confusion over the prefatory "militia"
clause. The individual right to keep and bear arms would
remain intact.
Also, here is a question.

It seems to me that ratification was NOT going to occur until the
BofR. Would altering the BoR allow states to say, "Fuck this, it's not
what we agreed to, we're outta here." ?
Bill Shatzer
2018-03-28 03:53:56 UTC
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Also, here is a question.
It seems to me that ratification was NOT going to occur until the
BofR. Would altering the BoR allow states to say, "Fuck this, it's not
what we agreed to, we're outta here." ?
They tried that in 1861.

The results were less than salubrious.

peace and justice
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-28 12:34:22 UTC
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Also, here is a question.
It seems to me that ratification was NOT going to occur until the
BofR. Would altering the BoR allow states to say, "Fuck this, it's not
what we agreed to, we're outta here." ?
They tried that in 1861.
No, they did not. Learn to read, Billy.
Bill Shatzer
2018-03-28 17:02:14 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Also, here is a question.
It seems to me that ratification was NOT going to occur until the
BofR. Would altering the BoR allow states to say, "Fuck this, it's not
what we agreed to, we're outta here." ?
They tried that in 1861.
No, they did not. Learn to read, Billy.
You've been reading too many alternate history novels.

Don't confuse Robert Conroy or Harry Turtledove with REAL historians.

Peace and justice
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-28 19:00:58 UTC
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Also, here is a question.
It seems to me that ratification was NOT going to occur until the
BofR. Would altering the BoR allow states to say, "Fuck this, it's not
what we agreed to, we're outta here." ?
They tried that in 1861.
No, they did not. Learn to read, Billy.
You've been reading too many alternate history novels.
You didn't read at all.
Post by Bill Shatzer
Don't confuse Robert Conroy or Harry Turtledove with REAL historians.
A pathetic try, Billy- as usual.

Again- try reading what was actually written.
a425couple
2018-03-28 18:56:52 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens believes
the students and demonstrators who protested this past weekend for gun
control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!

"Winkler also argued that Stevens' proposal is counterproductive because
it backs up the claim by Trump and the NRA that supporters of gun
control want to take away guns.
"Stevens's call to repeal the 2A is not only ineffective but worse: it
makes it even harder to pass good gun laws today. It plays right into
the hands of the @nra which can now point to this op-ed and say, 'See,
we told you they want to take away your rights and your guns.'"

Current Democratic leaders, even as they have pushed for new gun
control, have made clear they support the Second Amendment. If national
elections are going to be won and lost in the Rust Belt, Democrats will
need support from gun rights supporters if they're going to win
congressional or presidential elections.

"I believe in the Second Amendment, there's a right to bear arms," said
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer in February. "Every law-abiding
citizen has the right to have a gun unless you're a felon, or you're
adjudicated mentally ill, everyone agrees to that."

Even if Democrats turned wholesale against the Second Amendment (and
gave up any claim they had on moderates and gun lovers in their party),
there's the not-so-small difficulty of actually changing the Constitution.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/27/politics/repealing-the-second-amendment/index.html
Baxter
2018-03-28 19:36:44 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'. But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation. That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
bigdog
2018-03-28 19:53:24 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
Why else would you want to repeal it?
Post by Baxter
But what it would do is open the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
That's already open.
Post by Baxter
That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
That you don't admit repealing 2A is a gun grabbing move testifies to your
dishonesty.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:14:32 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
Why else would you want to repeal it?
that would seem to be a perfectly valid question.

What do you want to be you don't get a meaningful answer?
Post by bigdog
Post by Baxter
But what it would do is open the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
That's already open.
Unless of course what he considered 'reasonable' other people might find
oppressive and even tyrannical.

That's the fun thing about a word like "reasonable" it can mean absolutely
anything depending on who's speaking.
Post by bigdog
Post by Baxter
That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
That you don't admit repealing 2A is a gun grabbing move testifies to your
dishonesty.
I think you've nailed his position.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-28 23:31:03 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:36:44 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
BWAH ha ha hah ah ah a ha ha hah ah ah ah.

That's where you show your mental deficiency. It can't POSSIBLY show
anything BUT confiscation. What in the fuck do you think the
snowflakes are even MENTIONING it for?

But of course, you know it will never EVER happen.
Post by Baxter
But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
TRANSLATION: Confiscation
Post by Baxter
That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
The"restrictions" *WILL* be "gun-grabbing. There's no two ways about
it.
Baxter
2018-03-29 00:43:04 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:36:44 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second
Amendment.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
BWAH ha ha hah ah ah a ha ha hah ah ah ah.
That's where you show your mental deficiency. It can't POSSIBLY show
anything BUT confiscation. What in the fuck do you think the
snowflakes are even MENTIONING it for?
But of course, you know it will never EVER happen.
Post by Baxter
But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
TRANSLATION: Confiscation
Post by Baxter
That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
The"restrictions" *WILL* be "gun-grabbing. There's no two ways about
it.
And you would give guns to terrorists, criminals, the insane, those
mentally and/or physically incapable of handlingin guns, etc.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-29 01:14:56 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:36:44 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second
Amendment.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Baxter
Post by a425couple
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
BWAH ha ha hah ah ah a ha ha hah ah ah ah.
That's where you show your mental deficiency. It can't POSSIBLY show
anything BUT confiscation. What in the fuck do you think the
snowflakes are even MENTIONING it for?
But of course, you know it will never EVER happen.
Post by Baxter
But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
TRANSLATION: Confiscation
Post by Baxter
That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
The"restrictions" *WILL* be "gun-grabbing. There's no two ways about
it.
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And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO

First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.

Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.

https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them

https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-usa-2

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251

etc. etc. etc.

There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."

All code names for CONFISCATION.

We laugh at you.

It's never gonna happen.
Baxter
2018-03-29 01:36:13 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't? Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?

Hypocrite!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-29 01:38:37 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.


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Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
Hypocrite!
What's one got to do with the other, LeRoy?

Are you really this desperate now?

[chuckle]
Baxter
2018-03-29 03:13:47 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.

Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns. If a gun
is found in their possesion it is confiscated and they are incarcerated.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Baxter
Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
Hypocrite!
What's one got to do with the other, LeRoy?
You're the one claiming an absolute right to own and bear arms.

And your absolute right to guns means that criminals, terrorist,
underage, mentally and physically incompetant also get guns.

And guns of all kinds - bazookas, RPGs, heavy machine guns, etc.
bigdog
2018-03-29 09:26:30 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns. If a gun
is found in their possesion it is confiscated and they are incarcerated.
As if that happens a lot. It only happens AFTER they have committed a crime and
been arrested for it at which point, having a gun illegally is the least of
their worries.
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Baxter
Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
Hypocrite!
What's one got to do with the other, LeRoy?
You're the one claiming an absolute right to own and bear arms.
And your absolute right to guns means that criminals, terrorist,
underage, mentally and physically incompetant also get guns.
They would do that anyway. Since they are doing it now despite the law, how is
denying law abiding people the right to own a gun going to stop them from
getting a gun?
Post by Baxter
And guns of all kinds - bazookas, RPGs, heavy machine guns, etc.
Classic red herring argument.
benj
2018-03-29 18:42:03 UTC
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Post by bigdog
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns. If a gun
is found in their possesion it is confiscated and they are incarcerated.
As if that happens a lot. It only happens AFTER they have committed a crime and
been arrested for it at which point, having a gun illegally is the least of
their worries.
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Baxter
Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
Hypocrite!
What's one got to do with the other, LeRoy?
You're the one claiming an absolute right to own and bear arms.
And your absolute right to guns means that criminals, terrorist,
underage, mentally and physically incompetant also get guns.
They would do that anyway. Since they are doing it now despite the law, how is
denying law abiding people the right to own a gun going to stop them from
getting a gun?
Post by Baxter
And guns of all kinds - bazookas, RPGs, heavy machine guns, etc.
Classic red herring argument.
Especially since large crew-serve weapons and other red herrings are NOT
part of the standard issue to soldiers of the day. (nor are atomic bombs
etc always mentioned...at least they aren't standard issue YET!) Note
however a select-fire AR15 IS standard issue for a soldier of today!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-29 11:43:50 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
Post by Baxter
And your absolute right [..]
What does that mean, "absolute right?"

You brought it up. Tell us why. Besides trying to change the subject
since you're getting your leftist ass kicked.
Baxter
2018-03-29 14:28:55 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
So taking away a felon's guns is not confiscation?! Then what is it?

So not allowing a felon to purchase a gun is not taking away his 2nd
Amendment right?! Then what is it?

I've got popcorn, do your show.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:21:48 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
So taking away a felon's guns is not confiscation?! Then what is it?
So not allowing a felon to purchase a gun is not taking away his 2nd
Amendment right?! Then what is it?
An infringement of his 2nd Amendment rights as allowed for as punishment by
due process as allowed for by the 5th Amendment.

You want to tell us how we need to rewrite the laws, but you show you don't
even know what they are now.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-30 12:16:00 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:21:48 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
So taking away a felon's guns is not confiscation?! Then what is it?
So not allowing a felon to purchase a gun is not taking away his 2nd
Amendment right?! Then what is it?
An infringement of his 2nd Amendment rights as allowed for as punishment by
due process as allowed for by the 5th Amendment.
You want to tell us how we need to rewrite the laws, but you show you don't
even know what they are now.
He's too fucking cowardly to discuss gun confiscation, so he's trying
to equate it with taking guns from felons.

I heard the operated on his heart, but I didn't know they cut off his
balls at the same time.

Like many leftists, he doesn't want to talk about their plans to
confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens as part of "sensible gun
control."
Scout
2018-04-04 01:15:26 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:21:48 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
So taking away a felon's guns is not confiscation?! Then what is it?
So not allowing a felon to purchase a gun is not taking away his 2nd
Amendment right?! Then what is it?
An infringement of his 2nd Amendment rights as allowed for as punishment by
due process as allowed for by the 5th Amendment.
You want to tell us how we need to rewrite the laws, but you show you don't
even know what they are now.
He's too fucking cowardly to discuss gun confiscation, so he's trying
to equate it with taking guns from felons.
If he wants to do that, then the laws necessary are already on the books,
and thus no further gun control legislation is needed, necessary or
desirable.

So much for his position.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-30 12:13:16 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 14:28:55 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 03:13:47 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
No it is not.
Post by Baxter
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns.
You're REALLY fucking stupid-- and a typical gun grabber-- if you
think you're talking about the same thing.
So taking away a felon's guns is not confiscation?! Then what is it?
WE already know liberals are stupid, Baxter. There's not need for you
to prove it over and over and over again.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:19:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 01:36:13 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't?
Correct. Confiscation will never happen. Not in your life time, or
anyone else's.
It is already happening.
Felons right now are being denied the right to purchase guns. If a gun
is found in their possesion it is confiscated and they are incarcerated.
Then what more can you ask for?

Seems you have your 'reasonable restrictions' and yet it doesn't seem to be
enough for you.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:18:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't? Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
So now you're claiming to see all gun owners as convicted felons?

Oh, and the answer to both your questions is "The Fifth Amendment", and the
conditions that allow such restrictions to apply to criminals does NOT apply
to the rest of us.

That you seem to think they do and should, makes your claims of 'reasonable
restrictions' look more and more like something totally unreasonable.
Post by Baxter
Hypocrite!
Klaus Schadenfreude
2018-03-30 14:00:17 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:18:25 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Baxter
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 00:43:04 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
Post by Baxter
And you would give guns [..]
ROFLMAO
First of all, I wouldn't GIVE guns to anyone. They have to pay for
them same as anyone else.
Second of all, thanks for NOT trying to deny that the reason we call
you freaks "gun grabbers" is that you would LOVE to see guns
confiscated.
https://newrepublic.com/article/125498/its-time-ban-guns-yes-them
https://www.change.org/p/the-us-government-make-guns-illegal-in-the-
usa-2
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251
etc. etc. etc.
There are PLENTY of you freaks out there. Sometimes you just babble
about "common sense laws" or "reasonable laws."
All code names for CONFISCATION.
We laugh at you.
It's never gonna happen.
Really?! It isn't? Then why do many states bar felons from owning guns?
Why aren't you out their protesting against laws like that?
So now you're claiming to see all gun owners as convicted felons?
Oh, and the answer to both your questions is "The Fifth Amendment", and the
conditions that allow such restrictions to apply to criminals does NOT apply
to the rest of us.
That you seem to think they do and should, makes your claims of 'reasonable
restrictions' look more and more like something totally unreasonable.
Baxter never has been one for thinking things through.

Since he refuses to explain his reasoning, I can only surmise that he
actually believes that removal of guns from felons using due process
somehow equates to banning firearms.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:15:59 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:36:44 +0000 (UTC), Baxter
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Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second
Amendment.
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Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'.
BWAH ha ha hah ah ah a ha ha hah ah ah ah.
That's where you show your mental deficiency. It can't POSSIBLY show
anything BUT confiscation. What in the fuck do you think the
snowflakes are even MENTIONING it for?
But of course, you know it will never EVER happen.
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But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation.
TRANSLATION: Confiscation
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That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
The"restrictions" *WILL* be "gun-grabbing. There's no two ways about
it.
And you would give guns to terrorists, criminals, the insane, those
mentally and/or physically incapable of handlingin guns, etc.
I bet he's never given away a gun in his life, and certainly never to anyone
such as those you would indicate.

Which makes your claims that your restrictions are reasonable sound much
less so.
Scout
2018-03-30 03:10:46 UTC
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Post by Baxter
Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Washington (CNN)Retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens
believes the students and demonstrators who protested this past
weekend for gun control should seek a repeal of the Second Amendment.
Thanks Baxter, for showing your true 'gun grabber'
feelings, and stepping out from the cover of
'just a few common sense safety measures' !!
There's where you show your gun-nuttery. Repeal of the 2nd does not
necessarily mean or require 'gun grabbing'. But what it would do is open
the way for reasonable gun safety legislation. That you see any
restrictions as "gun grabbing" only testifies to your intrangigence.
Really?

Tell me, exactly what sort of "reasonable gun safety legislation" did you
have in mind, and if it's so reasonable, why would you need to strip us of
the 2nd Amendment protections?

Somehow I doubt you can or will answer the question.
Wile E. Coyote
2018-03-30 11:16:24 UTC
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Retired Justice Stevens argues for repeal of Second Amendment
Go ahead, try. Getteh votes necessary to repeal an amendment to the
Constitutiion.

Then, of course, convine the people with the guns to give them up. After all
the horrible things you've said about them.

Good luck with that.
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It's time for the students to step up their game and kill people like
Coulter.

Siri Cruise <***@yahoo.com> April 25, 2017
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