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Henry Bodkin
2024-11-04 18:59:55 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024


By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist. Ask her a question to which she doesn’t have a
canned answer and she struggles for a coherent response. The most notable
difference between her current presidential bid and her previous one in
2019 is that she has repudiated many of her past views. Is it because she’s
hiding her real convictions — or because she has few real convictions at
all?
Yet I’m going to vote for her. Other conservatives should, too.
Why? Because Donald Trump is worse. He isn’t worse because he’s a fascist:
If he were, his outspoken opponents would have wound up in prison, not on
MSNBC. He isn’t worse because his presidency was an unremitting failure:
The (prepandemic) economy thrived, Operation Warp Speed was a triumph, the
world was more at peace than it is today and there were important
diplomatic achievements such as the Abraham Accords. Nor is he the only one
who can disrespect political norms: It’s Harris, not Trump, who is
campaigning on ending the Senate filibuster and perhaps packing the Supreme
Court.
But Trump is worse in ways that matter profoundly to the rule of law, the
health of capitalism and the future of freedom at home and abroad.
Conservatives who claim to care about these things should also care about
what Trump may do to each of them — and, crucially, do so in the name of
conservatism. Consider:
Law. Conservatives are indignant about the flimsy civil and criminal cases
progressive prosecutors have brought against Trump — cases they almost
certainly wouldn’t have brought against anyone else.
But politicizing justice is exactly what Trump sought to do during his
presidency. He tried to strong-arm Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian
president, into participating in a dirt-digging expedition against Joe and
Hunter Biden. His Justice Department tried to block a merger between AT&T
and Time Warner in 2017, almost certainly out of presidential spite against
CNN. He appointed a hack as an acting attorney general and took legal
advice from conspiracy theorists, including Sidney Powell.
Oh, and he incited a mob to obstruct the lawful transfer of power and has
never recognized the legitimacy of the 2020 election. The only question
honest conservatives should ask themselves is this: If a Democrat had
behaved this way, how would they feel?
Capitalism. This year, for the first time in history, interest payments on
the federal debt, $870 billion, exceeded our $822 billion in military
spending. The overall federal debt has more than doubled in the past 10
years alone, to nearly $36 trillion.
Conservatives are supposed to be against overspending government. But an
analysis from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
estimates Trump will add about $7.75 trillion in debt. Conservatives are
supposed to be against higher taxes. But “tariff” — which Trump says is his
“favorite word” — is just another word for tax, and his plans to impose
massive new tariffs on imported goods will inevitably be paid by American
producers and consumers. Conservatives are supposed to abhor inflation, but
Trump’s fondness for big spending and low interest rates is inherently
inflationary.
Conservatives are also supposed to dislike government regulation. But as
the Financial Times columnist Ruchir Sharma noted in July, “Trump ended up
adding more than 3,000 new regulations a year, in the same range as his
predecessors going back to Bill Clinton.”
Freedom. The left overstated (and in doing so, damaged) its case that Trump
was Vladimir Putin’s “asset.” But Trump was and remains a sycophant to
Putin — and to China’s Xi Jinping and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un and
Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Hungary’s Viktor Orban. What president
can lead the free world when he’s so consistently effusive about its
enemies?
Trump’s supporters rejoin that his policies toward these countries were
often better than his rhetoric. True — but mainly because he was surrounded
by advisers like Gary Cohn, Jim Mattis and John Bolton, who didn’t let him
get away with his worst policy impulses. Other advisers, including
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, did do Trump’s bidding: What we got was the
dishonorable negotiation with the Taliban that laid the ground for Biden’s
disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Today, my Trump-leaning friends acknowledge that his pledge to cut off aid
to Ukraine would be a victory for Putin and a calamity for the West — but
that it’s counterbalanced by what they see as his stronger support for
Israel. But the Middle East and Ukraine are, at bottom, different fronts in
the same war. Allow Putin to succeed in Ukraine, and Israel’s threats from
Russia’s allies in Iran, Syria and Yemen will multiply.
Like many unhappy conservatives, I look at this election as a choice
between misfortunes. Faced with a similar dilemma in 1800, Alexander
Hamilton offered advice that should resonate with at least a few right-
leaning voters today: “If we must have an enemy at the head of the
government,” he wrote to a fellow Federalist, the House speaker Theodore
Sedgwick, that May, “let it be one whom we can oppose and for whom we are
not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his
foolish and bad measures.”
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Dawn Flood
2024-11-04 20:50:24 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison! What would such a sentence accomplish??

Dawn
Jamaal Bowman
2024-11-05 12:04:42 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Paul R.
2024-11-05 14:28:58 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come
up with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse
her opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence
accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Millions want Trump to rot in prison.
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-05 16:38:00 UTC
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Millions want Trump to rot in prison.
Euros can fuck off and die.
D. Ray
2024-11-06 12:20:46 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that’s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel’s borders instead of our own.
Skeeter
2024-11-06 13:22:00 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
D. Ray
2024-11-06 16:13:59 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
Skeeter
2024-11-06 16:17:07 UTC
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Post by Jamaal Bowman
Post by Henry Bodkin
A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
I don't know. That's a fake news thing. Ask them.
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 16:37:09 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
I don't know. That's a fake news thing. Ask them.
We need Rudey to be arrested and tried for treason against our nation -
NOW!
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 16:19:21 UTC
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Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians
You are a rampant public death threat maker and Suckramento dwarf named
Jonathan D. Ball.

FOAD, you relentless traitor to America~!

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Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Scout
2024-11-06 16:22:54 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison! What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
If they aren't here legally.. is there a reason they shouldn't be deported?

I mean you do believe in the rule of law, right?
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 17:00:33 UTC
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Post by Jamaal Bowman
Post by Henry Bodkin
A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
If they aren't here legally.. is there a reason they shouldn't be deported?
I mean you do believe in the rule of law, right?
It's traitor Jonathan Ball, why do you even ASK a question of him like that?

;-0

He WILL go to Gitmo and swing by his treasonous neck.
Scout
2024-11-06 17:47:56 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison! What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
If they aren't here legally.. is there a reason they shouldn't be deported?
I mean you do believe in the rule of law, right?
It's traitor Jonathan Ball, why do you even ASK a question of him like that?
Because I know if I get any answer from him.. he will only dig himself in
deeper, and if he doesn't respond my point remains unchallenged and he loses
debate that way. Either way, it's a win for me, and a loss (as usual) for
him.
Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 18:21:49 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison!  What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
If they aren't here legally.. is there a reason they shouldn't be deported?
I mean you do believe in the rule of law, right?
It's traitor Jonathan Ball, why do you even ASK a question of him like that?
Because I know if I get any answer from him.. he will only dig himself
in deeper, and if he doesn't respond my point remains unchallenged and
he loses debate that way. Either way, it's a win for me, and a loss (as
usual) for him.
Reasonable answer.
D. Ray
2024-11-06 23:18:35 UTC
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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist.
Trump is too old to go to prison! What would such a sentence accomplish??
Dawn
The Democrats use lawfare to scare the peons.
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that?s why they
win more often than Republicans. If Republicans were ready to fight tooth
and nails for what they say they believe in, I would support them. But the
only issue they willing to fight for is support for Israel. Thanks to them,
we secure Israel?s borders instead of our own.
We won. Get over it.
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
If they aren't here legally.. is there a reason they shouldn't be deported?
What if they are here legally? Or they will be legalized under Republicans?
Post by Scout
I mean you do believe in the rule of law, right?
I don’t believe that some pencil pusher in DC should have a right to fill a
country with bunch of niggers and browns and then declare them “legal”,
just like Reagan did in California. Remember when California was White
Republican state, a nice place to live?

And I bet that’s what going to happen this time, too. Those Haitians are
there to stay, regardless if they are legal or not right now. Last time
Trump was president, he was weak on deportations. He only had uptick of
them in 2020 due to Title 42 restriction, not due to his immigration
policies. If you remove those, he deported less people than even Obama.

That’s why I think you did not win. Trump won, GOP won, you lost. They’ll
tell you that deporting these people will be “bad for economy” or
something, and then proceed to import same Haitians, but legally. And
you’ll suck it up, just like you always did before.

How long Republicans were campaigning on immigration issues? You realize
they didn’t need Trump or any other Republican president to actually start
doing something? The open border issue is so serious that wars were started
for less. And Republicans, while supposedly agreeing with this, were
kicking bucket down the road for decades, allowing record numbers of
illegals in. But abortions and tax cuts for billionaires - yeah, that they
can get. And probably amnesty for illegals.

So I’m asking again, will Republicans deport Haitians in Springfield, OH?
Yes or no?

I want to save your reply and we’ll talk about it in the future.
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-07 00:23:31 UTC
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I want to save your reply and we’ll talk about it in the future.
You do that Rudence.

Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
Musk, Rudey?

Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January 2oth of '25?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 16:33:53 UTC
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Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians from Springfield, OH?
I predict YOU are going to Gitmo for your public death threats on Trump
and Vance and Musk, little man Ball.

FOAD, you traitor to America~!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-06 19:33:20 UTC
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Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians
Are you ready for Gitmo, Rudence?
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-06 19:56:21 UTC
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Post by D. Ray
Do you think Republicans will deport Haitians
Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
Musk, Rudey?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Citizen Winston Smith
2024-11-06 16:05:17 UTC
Reply
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Post by D. Ray
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power, that’s why they
win more often than Republicans.
Pack your toothbrush and soap bar little man Ball, because YOU are going
to the crowbar hotel for the rest of your worthless fucking life.

SO MOTE IT BE!
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-06 19:25:11 UTC
Reply
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Post by D. Ray
Democrats are not afraid of using their political power
Go then Rudence, fucking TRY IT!

You are heading to Gitmo, motherfucker.
Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-06 19:34:12 UTC
Reply
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Post by D. Ray
I would support them.
Explain why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ public death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz/P.Coonan and a few dozen other tawdry socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
Post by D. Ray
is an important step to getting there.
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's usenet terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-06 19:57:01 UTC
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Democrats are not afraid of mis-using their political power,
Agreed.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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From: J Carlson <***@gmx.com>
Newsgroups:
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No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
is an important step to getting there.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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Lil dwarf Rudey
2024-11-04 21:38:27 UTC
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Post by Henry Bodkin
Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
Rudence is due for a HUGE ass-kicking!


Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin/Dawn Flood and a dozen other
forged socks of living and dead posters wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.


https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.


Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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A Conservative Case Against Trump
Oct. 29, 2024
By Bret Stephens
Opinion Columnist
With a week to go before the election, Kamala Harris has yet to come up
with a compelling rationale for her candidacy, other than to accuse her
opponent of being a fascist. Ask her a question to which she doesn’t have a
canned answer and she struggles for a coherent response. The most notable
difference between her current presidential bid and her previous one in
2019 is that she has repudiated many of her past views. Is it because she’s
hiding her real convictions — or because she has few real convictions at
all?
Yet I’m going to vote for her. Other conservatives should, too.
If he were, his outspoken opponents would have wound up in prison, not on
The (prepandemic) economy thrived, Operation Warp Speed was a triumph, the
world was more at peace than it is today and there were important
diplomatic achievements such as the Abraham Accords. Nor is he the only one
who can disrespect political norms: It’s Harris, not Trump, who is
campaigning on ending the Senate filibuster and perhaps packing the Supreme
Court.
But Trump is worse in ways that matter profoundly to the rule of law, the
health of capitalism and the future of freedom at home and abroad.
Conservatives who claim to care about these things should also care about
what Trump may do to each of them — and, crucially, do so in the name of
Law. Conservatives are indignant about the flimsy civil and criminal cases
progressive prosecutors have brought against Trump — cases they almost
certainly wouldn’t have brought against anyone else.
But politicizing justice is exactly what Trump sought to do during his
presidency. He tried to strong-arm Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian
president, into participating in a dirt-digging expedition against Joe and
Hunter Biden. His Justice Department tried to block a merger between AT&T
and Time Warner in 2017, almost certainly out of presidential spite against
CNN. He appointed a hack as an acting attorney general and took legal
advice from conspiracy theorists, including Sidney Powell.
Oh, and he incited a mob to obstruct the lawful transfer of power and has
never recognized the legitimacy of the 2020 election. The only question
honest conservatives should ask themselves is this: If a Democrat had
behaved this way, how would they feel?
Capitalism. This year, for the first time in history, interest payments on
the federal debt, $870 billion, exceeded our $822 billion in military
spending. The overall federal debt has more than doubled in the past 10
years alone, to nearly $36 trillion.
Conservatives are supposed to be against overspending government. But an
analysis from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
estimates Trump will add about $7.75 trillion in debt. Conservatives are
supposed to be against higher taxes. But “tariff” — which Trump says is his
“favorite word” — is just another word for tax, and his plans to impose
massive new tariffs on imported goods will inevitably be paid by American
producers and consumers. Conservatives are supposed to abhor inflation, but
Trump’s fondness for big spending and low interest rates is inherently
inflationary.
Conservatives are also supposed to dislike government regulation. But as
the Financial Times columnist Ruchir Sharma noted in July, “Trump ended up
adding more than 3,000 new regulations a year, in the same range as his
predecessors going back to Bill Clinton.”
Freedom. The left overstated (and in doing so, damaged) its case that Trump
was Vladimir Putin’s “asset.” But Trump was and remains a sycophant to
Putin — and to China’s Xi Jinping and North Korea’s Kim Jong-un and
Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Hungary’s Viktor Orban. What president
can lead the free world when he’s so consistently effusive about its
enemies?
Trump’s supporters rejoin that his policies toward these countries were
often better than his rhetoric. True — but mainly because he was surrounded
by advisers like Gary Cohn, Jim Mattis and John Bolton, who didn’t let him
get away with his worst policy impulses. Other advisers, including
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, did do Trump’s bidding: What we got was the
dishonorable negotiation with the Taliban that laid the ground for Biden’s
disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Today, my Trump-leaning friends acknowledge that his pledge to cut off aid
to Ukraine would be a victory for Putin and a calamity for the West — but
that it’s counterbalanced by what they see as his stronger support for
Israel. But the Middle East and Ukraine are, at bottom, different fronts in
the same war. Allow Putin to succeed in Ukraine, and Israel’s threats from
Russia’s allies in Iran, Syria and Yemen will multiply.
Like many unhappy conservatives, I look at this election as a choice
between misfortunes. Faced with a similar dilemma in 1800, Alexander
Hamilton offered advice that should resonate with at least a few right-
leaning voters today: “If we must have an enemy at the head of the
government,” he wrote to a fellow Federalist, the House speaker Theodore
Sedgwick, that May, “let it be one whom we can oppose and for whom we are
not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his
foolish and bad measures.”
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Donald Trump is going to win the election.
Outdoor shopping venue. 2 words.
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