Post by David J. HughesPost by DustinPost by David J. HughesThe backdrop is the interior of the garage.
Not a good backdrop. Dunno what houses you've built, but my
experience with them, you don't want to be shooting at interior
garage room walls; you're bound to land a round in the living
room, somebodies bedroom, a bathroom.. etc. It's sheetrock. Not
exactly even bullet resistant material you're talking about here.
Post by David J. HughesDepending on the construction of the garage, and the shot used,
it may well be perfectly reasonable and proper, as the shot has a
minimal chance of exiting the garage.
I suspect the garage has some wood, some insulation, alot of
spacing, and sheetrock and some paint, some 12/2 with ground
wiring too; likely in the walls, halfway up the side. They won't
do much for stopping rounds either.
1/2" exterior grade plywood, and tar paper, as a minimum.
Of course. :) It's not sheetrock on the side exposed to the weather,
obviously. But, none of the materials listed are designed to stop
rounds from entering/leaving the building either. And if it's an
interior wall without an outside wall behind it, it's going to be
sheetrock and insulation with a wire (possibly for outlets) between
studs. In between those studs in that building configuration, it's two
sheets of sheetrock (one on each side) that stands between the bullet
and the other room. Ie: nothing.
Post by David J. HughesPost by DustinEven buckshot at close range is going to knock a hole thru the
wall. Into the other room, if one exists. If someone is near that
hole when it's made, their probably going to require a hospital
visit.
Round shot has pitiful penetration, and shot pellets, individually,
have very little ballistic energy.
Doesn't take much if you're traveling thru sheetrock and into a human.
Post by David J. HughesA OO Buck pellet has about the same energy as a .25 ACP bullet, a
notoriously underpowered cartridge.
Underpowered, yet still potentially lethal, depending on where you get
hit and how fast you can acquire medical attention. It's like the
22LR; a seriously under rated cartridge. Lethal as hell as a result.
Hit you in the leg, exit thru your ribcage, kinda deal.
Post by David J. HughesOOO Buck is about the same as a .36 Navy Cap and Ball round with a
half powder load. Useful in the close confines of a ship, and it
won't penetrate a bulkhead.
A bulkhead is a bit more solid than your house's interior walls. [g]
Post by David J. HughesPost by DustinNope. You're supposed to know what you're shooting at. Firing into
the dark at something you can't see, is a stupid move.
It's a standard modern military tactic. Something trips a
perimeter alarm, hose down the area.
Military sure, under known combat situations. You already know the
enemy is around. You took the effort to setup a perimeter with a
killzone. That does sound like what these people did too; and if
that's the case, they murdered that kid and can't claim castle laws
apply here.
Military is a little different than civilian in a non combat zone.
Post by David J. HughesIn the dark, you can't be certain if they are armed, so you have
to act as if they are. Any other action can get you killed if they
are armed.
Firing blindly into the dark can get others who have nothing to do
with the issue at hand killed or seriously injured as well. We're
comparing two different things here, though. This guy wasn't behind
enemy lines. Without seeing the target in this situation, he couldn't
have determined yes/no threat. He just opened fire. That could have
been his girlfriend/wife/whatevers aunt, mom, etc. He didn't know what
he was shooting at!
He's girlfriend/wife/whatever is backpeddling as fast as she can so
far.. I don't think the jury is going to go for the self defense line.
Hell, he discussed carrying out this plan in public and others
overheard him. He should have kept his mouth shut. he makes all gun
owners in the states look like a bunch of dumbass hicks that shoot at
anything that moves or makes a sound in the night. I'm a proud gun
owner myself, and this idiots actions aren't helping my rights to
continue owning them. He's giving the anti gun nuts ammo.
He should have been evaluated when he met the bug sprayer with a
shotgun. No need to be pointing a gun in someones face unless their an
immediate threat or you think they might be. What if it accidently
fired? He would have taken somebody elses head off. I suppose that
would be blamed on gun manufacturer though, and not the moron pointing
it?
It's not like you need precise accuracy with a 12guage. You don't need
to already have it pointed at somebody when you walk up on them. They
do anything stupid, raising it to midsection and firing (which is
likely where it's pointing while being carried anyhow) is going to do
the deed for you. Unless you've got it strapped over your shoulder,
it's already pretty much on the target, no real need to point it in
the persons face.
Also, it's very stupid to have a long gun that close to what you think
is a bad guy; they could take the damn thing from you and shoot you
with your own gun. Which probably wouldn't have been a bad thing for
this guy.
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